Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

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Cancer Treatment Centers of America are in it for the money

by Rocketman on Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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I called to get help for my father who is dying from brain cancer.  The person I talked to told me that since he has Medicare, it would cost too much money for him to go there.  She was rude and un caring - nothing like those fake commercials they have on television.  Has anyone else had that experience?

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by Joan_l_3 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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Karen,

CTCA is caring and sensitive only if you have the right insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.

They are a for-profit institution which most hospitals are not.  I have heard many stories about folks being turned away due to having the 'wrong' insurance.  In addition they have no cutting edge cancer treatments that other hospitals don't have.

All in all, not a good experience.  Also, have you noticed that the majority of hospitals don't advertise?  And that CTCA are not listed anywhere on the published list of the best 50 or 100 best hospitals judged as being the best for cancer treatment?

Good luck in finding good care for your Father.

Joan L

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by mmsurvivor on Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM

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I have heard they are selective in taking patients but around here there are a lot of docs that will not take Medicare patients, so it is not reserved for ctca alone. I did write to them and ask what their policy was re insurance and they cover a lot  but Medicare is not one of them.  I am sorry you found a "negative" Person to speak with and this is not and exclusive thing.  many hospitals and docs have the same problem.   would write the ceo a nice note and explain that you were "shocked" at the way you were treated and that you did expect a show of caring wether or not they could help you. MMS


 

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by mstanner on Sat Nov 21, 2009 04:37 AM

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What a joke.  I was so disgusted after my experience With this phony scam.  We habe 2 insurances, but since the primary is a HMO, they had me on the phone fpr 1 hour, faxing all my personal information, insurance cards etc. We were so excited about some kind of hope, they didn't even have the courtesy to call us back and let us know tjey weren't interested, I guess if our credit report was good enough and we could mortgage the house for 200,000, maybe, I EVEN TRIED TO CALL THEM BACK, but the gentlemen never returns my calls. watch out they are all about the bucks.

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by Gdpawel on Sun Jan 17, 2010 04:31 PM

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NCI-designated cancer centers are a very large business which act as a base of power for academic clinical oncologists who've had control of clinical cancer research since the time Nixon first declared war on cancer.

Patients seek the advice of health care professionals regarding their treatment options and protocols. This can be complicated when there is a range of treatments with differing interpretations of the best outcome. Add to it, the failure to ensure that patients have adequate comprehension of treatment options and complications often result in negative treatment outcomes. Cases where the treatment causes more harm than the disease generally lead to debates of whether observation without intervention would have been the optimal course.

It is the patient's right to complete information and transparency with their medical care that is the standard of good health care practice. Patients expect to be approached with open communication, care, respect, and understanding of their health and welfare. While this may be challenging for many health care professionals, patients need to become empowered and are demanding their right to full disclosure of their medical condition and the related treatment options.

Health care professionals need to educate patients about the patient-friendly resources designed to inform them about their condition and treatment. In other words, patients need to be educated on how to assume some responsibility for their own health care. These health and educational resources provide comprehensive and pertinent information to expand patient knowledge as well as guide in selecting treatment plans. To do less whould undermine standard of good health care practice.

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by johnlo on Wed Apr 07, 2010 06:53 PM

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On Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM Joan_l_3 wrote:

Karen,

CTCA is caring and sensitive only if you have the right insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.

They are a for-profit institution which most hospitals are not.  I have heard many stories about folks being turned away due to having the 'wrong' insurance.  In addition they have no cutting edge cancer treatments that other hospitals don't have.

All in all, not a good experience.  Also, have you noticed that the majority of hospitals don't advertise?  And that CTCA are not listed anywhere on the published list of the best 50 or 100 best hospitals judged as being the best for cancer treatment?

Good luck in finding good care for your Father.

Joan L

Actually most hospitals are for profit!!!!!!!! Why sould anyone work for you for free!!!!!!!!!!!! Doctors go to shchool to become doctors and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for thier education and thats right medical care should be non profit.

 

I wonder where you work you should tell them to give all thier products or service away to someone else who might need them.

 

Insurance is not a right to healthcare. This is why they dont have to accept it!!!!!!!

 

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by Medicocheck on Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:38 PM

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On Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM Rocketman wrote:

I called to get help for my father who is dying from brain cancer.  The person I talked to told me that since he has Medicare, it would cost too much money for him to go there.  She was rude and un caring - nothing like those fake commercials they have on television.  Has anyone else had that experience?

This company is an absolute fraud. There is no known cure for Panreatic Cancer, don't you think that all of the very high profile people who have died of this terrible disease would have gone there, including my business partner a well known BBC America Writer. They shoud be ashamed and the FDA should check them out.

John B.

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They can sue me if they wish?

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by zither on Sun Apr 25, 2010 01:28 AM

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On Apr 07, 2010 6:53 PM johnlo wrote:

On Aug 12, 2009 12:00 AM Joan_l_3 wrote:

Karen,

CTCA is caring and sensitive only if you have the right insurance or the money to pay for their treatment.

They are a for-profit institution which most hospitals are not.  I have heard many stories about folks being turned away due to having the 'wrong' insurance.  In addition they have no cutting edge cancer treatments that other hospitals don't have.

All in all, not a good experience.  Also, have you noticed that the majority of hospitals don't advertise?  And that CTCA are not listed anywhere on the published list of the best 50 or 100 best hospitals judged as being the best for cancer treatment?

Good luck in finding good care for your Father.

Joan L

Actually most hospitals are for profit!!!!!!!! Why sould anyone work for you for free!!!!!!!!!!!! Doctors go to shchool to become doctors and pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for thier education and thats right medical care should be non profit.

 

I wonder where you work you should tell them to give all thier products or service away to someone else who might need them.

 

Insurance is not a right to healthcare. This is why they dont have to accept it!!!!!!!

 

Absolutely wrong. Hospitals can be For Profit or Non-Profit depending on who's footing the bill.

Hospitals with religious or academic affiliations are generally Not-For-Profit while private facilities are usually For-Profit.

Non-Profit and Not-For-Profit does NOT mean that they give stuff away for free, it means that they have to allocate their revenue differently than a FOR PROFIT business. It also means that they get tax exempt status because they, technically, have no income--they are supposed to break even every year.

And don't confuse DOCTORS for HOSPITALS. Doctors are people, Hospitals are institutions. The PEOPLE are paid by the INSTITUTION.

Get your facts straight.

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by dorne on Fri Aug 27, 2010 05:04 AM

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I dont know that I can be compared as my insurance is not medicare. For me it was not so much would they take my insurance as were they approved by my plan. Strangely my insurance ( and many plans after talking to other patients )

covered the CTCA in Chicago but not the other 2 facilities !!

 I have read many of the replies and many seem angry that they are not any different than any hospital. As far as that goes it is true. I tell people that are interested or looking for options that they DO NOT HAVE A MAGIC CURE just as some have said but I guess I was smart enough to have figured that out by myself but NOT at anytime did ANYONE claiim they did. I have a rare stage 4 a type of thymoma called thymiimic carcinoma. But what there commercials do say that is true is the caring and positive support offered by EVERYONE at the Center right down to the caffeteria staff.

  i have never had an experience that could have been called rude and unfeeling. There are frustrations but I think where ever you go there will be bad days. You have to go where you have trust and where you are comfortable. I like that they seem more thurough in there tests and controling side-effects.

  I also go to the Mayo clinic and after going there for decades and just with this cancer my insurance has probably paid out a quarter of a milllion they still were refusing to make any new appts. because I owe them a couple thousand $ They want soooo much paper work  !!! 2 yrs of tax statements,payroll stubs etc. even when I told them I wouldnt qualify for aid !!

  my surgeon at Mayo saved my life !!   So in the end what really matters is balancing the frustration with the quality of life you are given in those few extra months.

 My biggest problem with CTCA is that do cancer and cancer only!!! As I developed pulminary issues I needed teh whole team approach Mayo offered.

  O.K. long enough  just never get to talk about this.

let me know if you have any other questions or just need someone to listen     

petranella petranella
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by petranella on Sun Aug 29, 2010 08:22 AM

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My father is a 2x brain cancer survivor.  CTCA is not the right place for brain cancer, where are u located?

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