Needing Recipes for my mom who was just diagnosed with Stage IV Breast Cancer

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Needing Recipes for my mom who was just diagnosed with Stage IV Breast Cancer

by BrittBaugh on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:03 PM

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Needing Recipes for my mom who was just diagnosed with Stage IV Breast Cancer. I know she will soon be starting treatments but i know her nutrition is very important too. I've heard soy is great. Any recipe ideas would be great.

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by geraldoone on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 PM

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On Jan 10, 2011 10:03 PM BrittBaugh wrote:

Needing Recipes for my mom who was just diagnosed with Stage IV Breast Cancer. I know she will soon be starting treatments but i know her nutrition is very important too. I've heard soy is great. Any recipe ideas would be great.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE CONTAINS ESTROGEN! PROBABLY NOT GOOD FOR BREAST CANCER.

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by BrittBaugh on Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:56 PM

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really? i had read that tofu was great for breast cancer patients.

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by geraldoone on Tue Jan 11, 2011 03:19 AM

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On Jan 10, 2011 10:56 PM BrittBaugh wrote:

really? i had read that tofu was great for breast cancer patients.

In the literature you will find pro and con on soy.  There are many studies that feel after menopause soy would be non- beneficial.

WHEN IN DOUBT ERR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY.  GOOGLE "SOY AND BREAST CANCER RISKS"; YOU CHOSE

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by Rosies_mom on Tue Jan 11, 2011 06:07 AM

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Hello Britt,

  You're such a supportive daughter jumping in to help your mom.   I think with regards to soy, it is dependent on if the cancer is estrogen positive or estrogen negative.  There is also conflicting info on bc and soy enough to make your head spin.  There was just something on TV that said women who consume plant based soy have a lower incidence of bc, but then HRT (hormone replacement therapy) which was prescribed to reduce heart disease risk (it doesn't) was found to increase bc.   I think the best thing to do is to check with the nutritionist at the hospital when your mom goes to TX.  You mentioned that she had lost weight.  Is she underweight now? If so, maybe she can take some Ensure between meals to get her weight where it needs to be.  Her appetite may be affected by what treatment she has.

   IMO I think it never hurts to eat a healthy diet-- fresh fruits and veggies, (broccoli is great! and dark leafy veggies like swiss chard, spinach, cauliflower, fresh sweet potato, squash, cabbage, mixed salads), chicken, turkey, lean beef in moderation, wild salmon. Try to eliminate processed sugar. If you're going to do pasta/bread make it whole wheat. Low alcohol intake. I also try to do organic/local whenever I can.

There is a family link for bc, (doesn't mean that you will get it) but knowing that your mom has it, it is never too late to eat well and keep up with self exams and checkups.

  When all is said and done however, some days the best medicine is a big fat piece of chocolate cake or a bowl of ice cream!

Please let us know how your mom makes out in TX.

Karen

 

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by BrittBaugh on Tue Jan 11, 2011 08:35 PM

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Thanks Karen. I read a lot of good info on Soy but i don't think I looked into it enough. I think she has estrogen positive cancer. Last summer she went through a quit menopause, had a DNC and was on hormone replacement drugs for a short period - looking bad that couldn't of been good, but she had no clue. Whats been scaring me on nutrition and todays food (especially meats) is how they are pumped with so many hormones. I wish i was there to grocery shop for them to make sure my dad is buying hormone free chicken, etc. Do you have any input on this? Maybe start buying organic?

She has been a healthy eater all her life....always hit up every food group at the dinner table...lots of healthy greens and such. I hope she can keep this up. Yes she is underweight now i would say. I told her at 52 she could wear a bikini ;). She said no not after 3 kids. She's lost 15 lbs already. The doctor said this was bc the cancer is in her liver. When i was home for New Years she made a big dinner night and i watched her eat...luckily her appetite is still good. She's 5"8 and weighs 110-115. She has a very small frame on the top. Ensure is a great idea.

 

Thank You again!

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by geraldoone on Wed Jan 12, 2011 05:34 PM

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On Jan 11, 2011 8:35 PM BrittBaugh wrote:

Thanks Karen. I read a lot of good info on Soy but i don't think I looked into it enough. I think she has estrogen positive cancer. Last summer she went through a quit menopause, had a DNC and was on hormone replacement drugs for a short period - looking bad that couldn't of been good, but she had no clue. Whats been scaring me on nutrition and todays food (especially meats) is how they are pumped with so many hormones. I wish i was there to grocery shop for them to make sure my dad is buying hormone free chicken, etc. Do you have any input on this? Maybe start buying organic?

She has been a healthy eater all her life....always hit up every food group at the dinner table...lots of healthy greens and such. I hope she can keep this up. Yes she is underweight now i would say. I told her at 52 she could wear a bikini ;). She said no not after 3 kids. She's lost 15 lbs already. The doctor said this was bc the cancer is in her liver. When i was home for New Years she made a big dinner night and i watched her eat...luckily her appetite is still good. She's 5"8 and weighs 110-115. She has a very small frame on the top. Ensure is a great idea.

 

Thank You again!

All chicken is hormone free by federal law!!!  You don't have to pay extra for "organic"

Trusting people  on these sites is dangerous for most of them in u.s. are totally ignorant of diet.

All the info you need is on the internet.  Google the question or topic.  Just last week i had to prove my opening sentence to my own daughter and son-in-law.

Geraldo

 

 

 

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by lsmith on Thu Jan 13, 2011 06:19 PM

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Soy BAD!  This is coming from a well educated vegan.  Do not let her have soy.

I would have her start off every day with a green smoothie.  Go to www.rawfamily.com

This is likely the best way (other than juicing, which I would recommend also) for her to get her greens in.  If you need more after than message me and I will be glad to help.

You might want to pick up the book "The China Study," among others.  Learn to do your own research, but know that you will find contradictions everywhere you go.

My best friend was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer a year ago in December.  She shifted to a mostly raw vegan diet immediately with green smoothies daily and juicing. Whe did radiation and chemo but did very well throughout it.  It was in her lymph and at one time that were wondering about the possibility of a mastectomy.  In the end, it was a lumpectomy and they checked to lymphnodes with no cancer and the lump was a "cancer carcass" as they called it.  There was nothing to biopsy and she has been cancer free since.  She looked great all through chemo and radiation and the running joke was "cancer looks good on you."  She completely attributes it to her diet change.

Although I would not eat chicken anyway, the hormone comment is tecnically true, has been for years.  Although, there are a lot of other scary other things that go on with chicken. "Organic" or not... I wouldn't eat it!

Healthy Blessings!

Lauren

 

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by Rosies_mom on Thu Jan 13, 2011 07:33 PM

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  Well Britt,

  You will see that nutrition is a hot topic and you will find alot of conflicting info and opinions.  Your mom is a smart lady, (you mentioned she is a hs science teacher) so I'm sure she will do what is best for her life.  Always good info to know yourself, it's a great opportunity for you to start eating healthy as well.

  Don't let this get overwelming for you.   You can spend alot of time trying to find "the cure".  Don't forget to just spend time having fun with your mom.   Try no to dwell on what was done in the past.  We do the best we can with what we know. 

 

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by geraldoone on Sat Jan 15, 2011 07:36 PM

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This is coming from a well educated(Bachelors degee in Biology) who was diagnosed with esophageal adenocarcinoma with signet cell involvment, stage2  in Sept. 2007 at age 72. 

I have had treatment with various chemical combinations plus full course of radiation 1 year after diagnosis (delay due to Sloan Kettering doctor mis-diagnosis). During first 2 years I had approx. 8 months of non- detectable cancer.  The rest of time, although tumor returned, it has stayed in Esophagus.

Although this is nasty, a VEGAN SHOULD NOT BE GIVING DIETARY ADVICE! Homo Sapiens are CARNIVORES.(  My understanding is Vegans take many supplements for basic nutrition.  To be blunt, it is like a homosexual counseling a heterosexual on how to have "normal sex".

THIS HAS BEEN MY DIET:  I immediately started smoking again.  I have 2 or 3 Vodka Martinis each evening. I eat meat from bologna to filet mignon and lots of chicken  I eat all types of seafood.  I eat fat and lots of butter and white bread and rolls homemade by my wife as well as a wide variety of desserts made with white sugar.(sucrose.  I eat fruits and vegetable daily.  The only drugs I routinely take are 10mg Lipitor 20 mg celexa and 40 mg Nexium.  I'll bet thats less than a Vegan.

With cancer you have a good chance of dying.  Diet rarely if ever causes cancer and doubtful will cure.  MY RADIATION TECH VERY SERIOUSLY AND SINCERELY,ALMOST WHISPERED IN MY EAR, "KEEP THE WEIGHT".I weighed 285 then and weigh 285 now.  Also if during a treatment which truly kills your appetite ,although I personally can barely tolerate it, take marijuana.  Do not waste your time with artifical. Even Dr. said it wouldn'work and it didn't.  EAT, DRINK AND BE MERRY.  Even though on chemo that can be very hard to do.

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