Starving Cancer

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Starving Cancer

by stu46 on Sun May 01, 2011 02:48 AM

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Hi.

Just read a report from an Hong Kong doctor, who was imprisioned by the Japanese during world war two.

He stated that among the prisioners was a man suffering from end stage testicular cancer, and given only weeks to live, the prisioners were given a starvation diet of rice/veg (mainly cabbage) at the end of the war the cancer man was still alive, and lived another ten years.

Food for thought

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by Yaziza on Sun May 01, 2011 04:12 AM

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I have noticed that juicing cabbage is in a lot of anti-cancer diets. 

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by stu46 on Sun May 01, 2011 05:38 AM

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Hi. Yaziza.

I think it's more than that, I think it's calorie restriction, starving the cancer cells as they need much more energy to grow, as most feed by anaerobic means which is very inefficient.

I think a juice fast, with omega 3 oil (flaxseed ,hemp, fishoil) would help a lot, as normal cells can convert fat/oil to energy if neccesary, but cancer cells cannot.

Omega 3 oil has been proved to prevent or reverse cahexia and is anti-inflammatory.

Only my thoughts though, one would have provide sufficient nutrients without supplying glucose to the cancer cells.

Google juice fast's and ketogenic diet (but without the animal fats/meat) and cancer.

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by veggienft on Sun May 01, 2011 04:42 PM

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This would be an anti-cancer protocol for vegetarians if adhered to constantly and permanently. However, it provides no protein, and even sick bodies need protein. Practically vegetarians are either going to use it as a temporary fast or as a supplement. They're going to fill in with plant proteins, including lectins. What's the problem with lectins? Okay, you eliminate all the sugar practical. You eat a lectin like wheat gluten. Tissue Transglutaminase (tTg) is a cross-linking protein which binds glutamine and cells together to create tissue. Lectins have cross linking proteins which bind to tTg. The immune system creates antibodies which attack and destroy the compromised tTg. The tTg attack frees the bound glutamine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaminolysis " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaminolysis Cells exude an enzyme called MTOR. MTOR tells the cell about the free glutamine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaminolysis " target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutaminolysis The cell absorbs the glutamine, and uses it to mutate into cancer. So yes, the body has ways to work around the fat ingestion treatment, but only if you're still consuming lectins. I'm saying eat some meat with your fat, and not lectins. http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html Meat contains few lectins.

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by veggienft on Sun May 01, 2011 05:02 PM

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Low carb diets have gained popularity lately. Anti low carb people complain that low carb diets rest on a false principle. The low carb principle says that carb sugars cause insulin, and the insulin causes weight gain. As evidence low carbers show how their food cravings subside and they lose weight. Detractors claim that carb reduction is not causing the insulin drop or the weight loss. They say that the reduced cravings, the result of reduced carb intake, causes low carbers to eat fewer calories. And the reduced calorie intake causes the weight loss. To me this is a distinction without a difference. The low carb diet causes the weight loss any way you look at it.

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by stu46 on Sun May 01, 2011 11:12 PM

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If you are just interested in losing weight, and reducing insulin resistence, try 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon and 1 teaspoon honey in a glass of hot water daily, it brought my blood glucose levels down to low/normal in one month.

I was trying to find a way to starve cancer, without causing cachexia.

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by Yaziza on Mon May 02, 2011 05:09 AM

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Thanks Stu46 - I love reading your post - so informative.

RE: Starving Cancer

by stu46 on Tue May 03, 2011 08:17 AM

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Hi Veggien.

No the whole point is you dont supply protein, cancer cells are protein, what happens is that when the body doesn't have sufficient food it consumes fats, and also later on proteins, but it uses up those parts that are not really neccesary, (if you starve to death, all your muscles and a lot of your organs will have lost weight except your brain) and will hopefully consume the cancer for food.

Sick people need protein, but we all have reserves of protein and fats enough to last 40 to 50 days.

RE: Starving Cancer

by robinstamm on Thu Jan 05, 2012 06:33 PM

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On May 01, 2011 2:48 AM stu46 wrote:

Hi.

Just read a report from an Hong Kong doctor, who was imprisioned by the Japanese during world war two.

He stated that among the prisioners was a man suffering from end stage testicular cancer, and given only weeks to live, the prisioners were given a starvation diet of rice/veg (mainly cabbage) at the end of the war the cancer man was still alive, and lived another ten years.

Food for thought

Chances are good the remission came about through the rice and cabbage (whole foods, and cabbage is known for its anti-cancer properties).

For more info on how diet can help with cancer, you might want to read Joel Fuhrman's "Eat to Live", and get a cookbook with recipes for nutritionally dense meals. You can also find links to other info that might be of interest here: https://www.facebook.com/BreastCancerBandits

Starving (or not eating) would harm your immune system, in addition to whatever else it might do. When you've got cancer, you want to build (not destroy) the strength of your immune system.

Good luck with whatever path you choose!

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