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Nicole, sorry to hear about your baby. I lost my scooter a few years ago but I do peek in the Facebook group from time to time. Is your boy taking Pepcid for the piroxicam. If not he should. You will find that in the other group. Also, I learned a lesson when I started up all these things for scooter. New meds, new supplements, new diet and she got a pretty upset tummy. I stopped it all and added back just the necessities: piroxicam, Pepcid, and her chlorambucil then slowly one thing at a time. The problem was adding all this stuff at once I couldn’t figure out what made her stomach upset. It worked doing one at a time. It’s been so long I don’t remember what it was but I was glad it wasn’t anything necessary. Good luck to you!
You are welcome. She had 30 requests. Wow. You should be in now
Yes it is monitored. The admin person is slow to respond. I will let her know you are trying to join.

On Dec 18, 2017 1:33 AM HarveysMom wrote:

1st I want to thank all of you for sharing your experiences and maintaining this discussion for so many years.  I've gained a lot of insight reading all the posts, but am still not comfortable/confident deciding on the next step. 

My "little man" Harvey is a 12yrs old beagle originally diagnosed with a prostate tumor in October 2017 via ultrasound.  He started on Deramaxx.  It helped him have more normal poops and less accidents in the house.  In November we had an urgent vet visit: he started shaking for unknown reason next to me on tthe couch, then went upstairs alone and a few minutes later I heard him vomiting.  I went upstairs and also found he had peed/pooped all over the upstairs in that ti.e period.  The vet did another ultrasound and informed me the tumor had started to infiltrate Harvey's bladder.  His Deramaxx dose was increased and he started on Prozasin to attempt to dilate his urethra as his urine flow had gradually decreased over the month.  The vet & I spoke over the phone early December re Harvey's progress. I asked about Peroxicam as I'd seen it mentioned online and I wasn't sure the med changes were making much difference.  The vet also told me he further looked into Prozasin and the literature didn't show much effectiveness.  Last week we switched him to Peroxicam (instead of Deramaxx) and then we also took him off Prozasin to see if anything changed.  Harvey resumed Prozasin as the 4days without it i noticed decreased urine stream (1st squirts, then yesterday a trickle).  Over the last month Harvey has waivered between difficulty peeing/pooping (discomfort) andtaking many attempts to go but without bothering him. Last night he changed drastically= shaking again, dry hot nose (dehydrated), making grumble noises and minimal urine output plus stretching to pee/poop.  Harvey was admitted to an emergency animal hospital and ultrasound showed his urethra nearly fully blocked.  A catheter was placed overnight allowing him to pass urine and he ate well & pooped this morning.  This afternoon I was called by the emergency vet to discuss Harvey peeing "as they expected"(???), "poor prognosis overall plus limited treatment options / treatment outcomes not good", andchest  xray showing lung mets (???3 areas).  ???= my emotions made it difficult to really absorb what he said and think clearly).  Harvey really had been acting like his usual content self except when out to pee/poop up until yesterday.  Though he's been increasingly picky with dog food (still very interested in people food).  An oncology vet will see him tomorrow and call me to discuss care plan, but the emergency vet made it seem like stenting to get 2mo more or euthanizing are our options now.  He also told me these cancers don't usually give signs it's time to pass from the dog.  This worried me as in October I was planning on Harvey giving me the signal when it was time.   As others on this site have said, i don't want him to suffer (via stent complications or if tgge days it gives him are painful), but I also don't ever want to short change him any quality time he has left by euthanizing now.  Finances are a concern for me now as well: the Emergency Hospitalization has been quoted as $2,250 for this weekend, and I feel guilty taking cost intoconsideration when it comes to the quantity or quality of his life.  

Please, any advice you can give is helpful as i struggle to decide which way to take his care plan.

First I’m so sorry your boy has this cancer. I sort of worry you are running out of options as well. The trickle means he has a blockage. I’m a part of a Facebook TCC group and it seems for some stentcsnbean option but it feels more short term. Just weeks or a a few months. It becomes such a difficult decision. Do you buy weeks or months? You mentioned a financial concern here too. I know some have tried a type of radiation and I’m sorry I don’t know what kind. Again this seems to buy a little more time. We didn’t do these things. We did piroxicam and an oral chemo pill and we stuck by her and loved her and spoiled her the best we knew how. In some ways I wonder if I could have bought her months by going the chemo/radiation route but I know it’s not healthy to think that way. I hope the consult gives you answers or at least peace of mind you are taking care of your baby the best you know how. As hard as it is, know you do the best you can every day. I hate this cancer. I really wish you the best and pray there is something they can offer. Let me also say I know the finance part is so difficult. Many cannot afford the thousands to get months and if they are lucky the year or more out of this. With the resources you have, you do the very best you can. Hope this helps a bit n

RE: TCC of Urethra?

by scootersmom - December 04, 2017

Oh it’s ok! I’m not upset with you. I was more afraid you thought I wrote that post. I don’t agree with them ;). We are good :)

RE: TCC of Urethra?

by scootersmom - December 04, 2017

Petra, I did not post that meassage. I noticed you mentioned my name. It came from Oriane and I do not know that person. I would never tell you to let your dog go or end Nikas suffering. One thing you will find from the Facebook group is no one pushes you in one direction or the other. It’s a very supportive group with a lot of knowledgeable pet parents. You will find many do just piroxicam, or chemo, radiation, stents, holistic, surgery. All kinds of ideas and support. My girl lived over a year until age 12. You will find others who are older and obviously some younger. You will find you are not alone. Just know for me, I won’t ever tell you what to do. I’ll just support you like many others in the group. You know Nika better than anyone :). I’ll see you over there soon :)

RE: TCC of Urethra?

by scootersmom - December 04, 2017

I sent a message to the admin person, Debbie. It can take her a couple of days to approve which feels like a lifetime to some. Hopefully she approves it today. It’s such a great group and lots of support. I’m sarah Yates, so once you post, I’ll reply there. If you hear nothing in a couple of days, let me know. Thanks

RE: TCC of Urethra?

by scootersmom - December 04, 2017

Hi there. Are you on Facebook? There is a large dog transitional cell carcinoma group there. I have seen others ask about laser ablation. Let me know if you are able to join otherwise I can ask the group for you.
First I’m sorry your baby has this cancer. You do want to add a stomach protectant because the piroxicam can cause stomach ulcers. So even if you don’t see vomiting or diarrhea, it’s mesnt to coat the stomach. My girl was 20 lbs and she took 1 (10mg) Pepcid ac a day. Talk to your cetabiut this and even if they don’t recommend it, it’s fine to give. MOST vets insist on it. Are you on Facebook? There is a large TCC Facebook community for support too.
I remember reading each and every post here when my girl Scooter was diagnosed. I found all of this very helpful. I am sorry for your loss. I do hate that this cancer doesn’t treat our babies well. They are incredibly strong though.
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